Response to theist bloggers religious liberty warning to America…

His post was predicated on an editorial in The Daily Signal, a conservative US news paper founded in 2014 by the Heritage Foundation, that he reprinted and embellished with his own vitriol and echoed it’s marching orders to the faithful. The theses of the essay is that religious freedoms in Canada and US are being eroded by liberal politicians who are the minions of the godless amongst them.

Excerpt: “Faithful patriots in this country who are concerned by the attacks on free exercise of religion in America should also be concerned by the similar attacks on liberty echoing within Canada, a country with strong protections for religious liberty in its Charter for Rights and Freedom.”

“In light of the immense trade between our two countries, we must determine if religious intolerance is an intangible export that has escaped our notice.”


Really? I had no idea. And here I thought I was part of a insignificant minority.

I guess you missed the religious test for holding office in Texas or the fact we are the most unlikely group to be elected to any office in any State in the US. As to religiosity and Canadian politics I have no knowledge.

On the other hand, I agree you may have reason for concern. Let us just check the list of cultural disasters waiting the dominant culture when the godless and misguided Atheists start dominating political decision making.

Wait a minute, I’m not aware that any declared Atheist has ever held public office in the United States. If so he, she, they have escaped my notice. To me that’s as complete a disenfranchisement of a citizen class you can get.

Who the heck do you think we are? Except for the god questions we believe in most of the things as everyone else. We’re your neighbors, we have families, we are western educated, we participate in all forms of altruism, we are veterans, we believe our democracies, we vote and we hold our personal and civil liberties dear. We have to because of the massive influence and Christianity’s toxic encroachment into our politics.

We’re not the folks coming to your home to proselytize. We’re not the ones accosting people in public places. We’re not the ones draining public resources for parochial institutions, we’re not the ones with tax free status to grow your base and we’re certainly not the ones boycotting military funerals. I’m just shy of 70 and it wasn’t until about 10 years ago that I serendipitously discovered meet-ups with other likeminded people in my community.

What you’re engaged in is fear-mongering. You are demonizing a small and dispersed group of people. So what if all legislators were atheists. You should be so lucky.

Now, let’s examine the hypocrisy of your supposition. I’m confident you are aware of all that follows.

Christianity is guilty of:

1. The discouragement of rational, critical thought.

2. Vilification of homosexuality, resulting in discrimination, parents disowning their children, murder, and suicide.

3. Women treated like second-class citizens based on religious teachings.

4. Children growing up to hate and fear science and scientists, because science disproves their parents’ religion – leading to appalling scientific illiteracy.

5. Tens of thousands tortured and killed as witches (a practice which still continues today).

6. People aren’t making the most of this life because of their belief in an afterlife.

7. People dying because they believe their faith makes them immune to snake venom, or other lethal aspects of reality.

8. People dying – and letting their children die – because their religion forbids accepting medical help.

9. People choked, starved, poisoned, or beaten to death during exorcisms.

10. Genital mutilation of babies endorsed by religious texts.

11. Psychological and physiological conditions blamed on demons, preventing believers from seeking medical care for themselves and their children.

12. People disowning family members for leaving their religion.

13. Friendships and romances severed or never started over religious differences.

14. “Abstinence-only” sex education, resulting in five times the amount sexually transmitted diseases and teenage pregnancies – often leading to ill-fated “emergency” marriages.

15. Women having septic abortions—or being forced to have unwanted children they resent—because religious organizations have gotten laws passed making abortion illegal or inaccessible.

16. Censorship (often destructive) of speech, art, books, music, films, poetry, songs and, if possible, thought.

17. The demonization of other religions, e.g. Christianity demonizing Pagans (“They’re devil-worshipers!”)

18. Children spending the period of their lives when the brain is most receptive to learning new information reading, rereading, and even memorizing religious texts.

19. People who believe the world is about to end neglect their education, are not financially responsible, and in extreme cases take part in mass suicides.

20. Long-term environmental issues ignored because of rapture/apocalypse or something will happen soon, so they don’t matter.

21. Wives told they will be tortured forever if they leave their abusive husbands (and vice versa).

22. Holy wars – followers of different faiths (or even the same faith) killing each other in the name of their (benevolent, loving and merciful) gods.

23. The destruction of great works of art considered to be pornographic/blasphemous, and the persecution of the artists.

24. Slavery condoned by religious texts.

25. Children traumatized by vivid stories of eternal burning and torture to ensure that they’ll be too frightened to even question religion.

26. Terminal patients in constant agony who would end their lives if they didn’t believe it would result in eternal torture.

27. School boards having to spend time and money and resources on the fight to have evolution taught in the schools.

28. Persecution of “heretics”/scientists, like Giordano Bruno (burned at the stake) and Galileo Galilei.

29. Blue laws forcing other businesses to stay closed or limit sales, while churches can generate more revenue.

30. Mayors, senators, and presidents voted into office not because they’re right for the job, but because of their religious beliefs.

31. Abuse of power, authority and trust by religious leaders (for financial gain or sexual abuse of followers and even children).

32. People accepting visual and auditory hallucinations unquestioningly as divine, sometimes with fatal results.

33. Discrimination against atheists, such as laws stating they may not hold public office or testify in court, or in half a dozen countries around the world, laws requiring their execution

34. Missionaries destroying/converting smaller, “heathen” religions and cultures.

35. Hardship compounded by the guilt required to reconcile the idea of a fair god with reality (“why is God punishing me? What have I done wrong? Don’t I have enough faith?”).

36. Human achievements—from skillful surgery to to emergency landings—attributed to gods instead of to the people actually responsible.

37. Mother Teresa, prolonging the agony of terminal patients and denying them pain relief, so she can offer their suffering as a gift to her god.

38. Tens of billions annually in the US alone spent to build, maintain, and staff houses of worship.

39. Grief and horror caused by the belief that dead friends and family members are tortured as punishment for disbelief.

40. Natural disasters and other tragedies used to claim God is displeased and present demands to avoid similar events (it’s like terrorism, but without having to plan or do anything).

Thanks to “copycatgod” on Reddit for this list.

Religion, ain’t it the best human construct ever?

I offer these questions for your consideration.

“Why should anyone feel compelled to be subservient to a benevolent benefactor? Put another way, what kind of mind demands to be worshipped for doing what came naturally?” Nationofnope.


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